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edog2009


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 20.55hrs on Sun 21 Aug 16
Hi Simon,

I'd be very interested to see your pictures! Email them to me, and I'll resize them and post them here.

Eddie

egboyle@hotmail.com

SimonW


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 14.50hrs on Mon 22 Aug 16
Hi Ed, I have dropped you an email.

edog2009


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 20.12hrs on Mon 22 Aug 16
Here are Simon's photos of the Snezhnika glacieret - followers of the whole 'glaciers in GCM' debate will find these very interesting!

1. The north face with the glacieret below. The LIA moraine can clearly be seen.



2. Approaching the site with LIA moraine hiding the lower part of the glacieret.



3. Berschgrund at the head of the site



4. Bottom of the site with the head of the LIA moraine (with 'pro talus rampart debris) clearly visible.



5. The whole glacieret from the base. The width is approx 110m and the height about 80m





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PeterS


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 20.39hrs on Mon 22 Aug 16
Thanks for that Simon and Ed. Really interesting.

SimonW


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 20.40hrs on Mon 22 Aug 16
Thanks Eddie for sorting them out. A further 6 pictures are available here:


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cumbrianskihead


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 21.43hrs on Mon 22 Aug 16
The lowest point of glacier i know of in Europe (excluding norway and other northern countries) is at the Hallstatter gletscher, below the dachstein mountains. This piece exists due to a high, steel ridge to the est, another high, steep ridge to the west and the shear vollume of snow and ice above it. The glacier starts of almost flat at the top (2860m) and gradually gets steeper. The little slither looks to be on a slope of around 35o and is broken up. It lies at 2140-2200m depending on yearly snowfall.



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SimonW


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 16.36hrs on Tue 23 Aug 16
PeterS Wrote:
Thanks for that Simon and Ed. Really interesting.


This article here is a good read for those interested in how glaciers can survive in such marginal conditions below the snowline:

[www.researchgate.net]

The Balkan mountains whilst much higher than those in Scotland are perhaps the closest example in Europe as to what sort of things might form on our mountains if they were slightly higher or the climate slightly different.

MartinT


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Re: The return of the Albion glaciers
Date Posted: 01.11hrs on Sat 3 Sep 16
Cumbrianski, I'm a bit confused about your definition of 'lowest point of glacier'? Do you mean the lowest highest/starting point? As for example the one I looked at a few weeks ago(attached) off Mont Blanc I'm sure extends to much lower than 2140m.. (Bossons Glacier I think).

Anyway, onto perennial patches/glaciarets, many years ago (80s) I visited the Durmitor mountains in late summer and they had ice caves and many large patches at quite modest altitudes.

Edit: Aaah, here we are, glacier at 2455m altitude south of the Alps in the Durmitor: [en.wikipedia.org] probably been discussed on threads here in the past no doubt.

An interesting article on balkan snow patches/glaciarets:

[www.degruyter.com]

Martin





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