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alan


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2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 13.56hrs on Mon 9 May 16
Posted this in response to a question in the CairnGorm non-conditions discussion, but will give it a thread of it's own!

This is the stats for the number of days each lift operated from 8th January when the season got underway until CairnGorm wrapped up lift served snowsports yesterday (Sun 8th May).


1. [NR] Gondola open for 118 days
2. [GC] Access Chairlift open for 115 days
3. [CG] CairnGorm Funicular open for 113 days
4. [GC] Plateau Poma open for 102 days
5. [CG] Polar Express Poma open for 100 days
6. [GC] Main Basin T-Bar open for 99 days
7. [CG] Ptarmigan Ski Tow open for 98 days
8. [CG] M1 Poma open for 95 days
9. [CG] Coire na Ciste Tow open for 92 days
10. [GC] Wall Ski Tow open for 87 days
11. [NR] Alpha Tow open for 87 days
12. [GC] Coire Pollach Tow open for 85 days
13. [NR] Snowgoose Ski Tow open for 83 days
14. [NR] Summit Ski Tow open for 83 days
15. [NR] Snowgoose Quad open for 82 days
16. [CG] Coire Cas T-Bar open for 81 days
17. [GC] Rannoch Button open for 75 days
18. [GC] Plateau Rope Tow open for 73 days
19. [GC] Cliffhanger Chairlift open for 73 days
20. [LT] Robin Tow open for 68 days
21. [LT] Kestrel Poma open for 68 days
22. [LT] Grouse Poma open for 65 days
23. [LT] Snowy Owl Chairlift open for 65 days
24. [LT] Eagle Poma open for 65 days
25. [LT] Bunting Magic Carpet open for 64 days
26. [LT] Wren Tow open for 62 days
27. [NR] Rope Tow open for 61 days
28. [LT] Rail Park open for 60 days
29. [GS] Sunnyside Poma 1 open for 58 days
30. [GS] Sunnyside Poma 2 open for 58 days
31. [GS] Butchart's Access Poma open for 56 days
32. [GS] Baddoch Chairlift open for 56 days
33. [GS] Claybokie Poma open for 56 days
34. [NR] Rob Roy Ski Tow open for 55 days
35. [GS] Tom Dearg Poma open for 54 days
36. [LT] Falcon Poma open for 54 days
37. [GS] Dink Dink Poma open for 54 days
38. [GS] Cairnwell Ski Tow open for 52 days
39. [NR] Great Glen Chairlift open for 51 days
40. [GS] Coire Fionn Poma 1 open for 51 days
41. [GS] Coire Fionn Poma 2 open for 50 days
42. [NR] Linnhe Tow open for 47 days
43. [GS] Beag Poma open for 47 days
44. [GS] Cluny Poma 1 open for 47 days
45. [GS] Meall Odhar Poma open for 47 days
46. [GS] Butcharts Ski Tow open for 44 days
47. [LT] Buzzard Poma open for 43 days
48. [GS] Sunnyside Chairlift open for 43 days
49. [LT] Osprey Poma open for 43 days
50. [LT] Eaglet Poma open for 42 days
51. [CG] West Wall Poma open for 41 days
52. [GS] Caenlochan Poma open for 40 days
53. [GS] Glas Maol Poma open for 40 days
54. [CG] Fiacaill Ridge Poma open for 39 days
55. [GS] Cluny Poma 2 open for 33 days
56. [NR] Warrens Ski Tow open for 30 days
57. [LT] Harrier Poma open for 28 days
58. [CG] CarPark Ski Tow open for 25 days
59. [GS] Dink Dink Rope Tow open for 25 days
60. [CG] Sheiling Handle Tow open for 25 days
61. [GS] Cairnwell Chairlift open for 24 days
62. [GS] Plastic Slope Poma open for 22 days
63. [CG] DayLodge Poma open for 21 days
64. [NR] Braveheart Chairlift open for 15 days
65. [CG] West Wall Chairlift open for 0 days
66. [CG] Coire na Ciste Chairlift open for 0 days
67. [GS] Carn Aosda Ski Tow open for 0 days

Doug_Bryce


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 14.27hrs on Mon 9 May 16
geeky: but I like it Alan winking smiley

the surprising entry for me has to be the glencoe plateau poma at #4 ?
some serious snow farming kept uptrack complete this winter.

though with new chairlift being proposed for Glencoe plateau it could soon be redundant ? in theory the rope tow and new coire pollach poma can almost provide surface uplift across plateau on very windy days ? (i.e days when new chairlift on plateau couldn't run).



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 14.28hrs Mon 9 May 16 by Doug_Bryce.
paraffin


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 15.43hrs on Mon 9 May 16
Very much geeky - but useful.
It would be interesting to see a further breakdown of days closed and reasons why, such as; lack of snow cover, wind/weather, mechanical breakdown, operational decision, lack of punters etc.


some frustrated skier


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 19.45hrs on Mon 9 May 16
Amazing that all of Glencoe's lifts are in the top 20 in terms of days.

And it certainly shows that Cairngorm had struggled in terms of low level snow but it shows how great an asset the Fiaciall ridge poma is when the snow level is marginal.
eltankos


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 10.18hrs on Tue 10 May 16
Surprised that the NR gondola is #1 but looking at the rest of their lifts I guess all the gondola days weren't (lift served) skiing days.

Hopefully glencoe will move the plateau poma to open up some more terrain once they get the chairlift put in.
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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 11.44hrs on Tue 10 May 16
Having demonstrated the reliability of the Poma, I wouldn't have thought it would be moving anywhere else ?
paraffin


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 12.37hrs on Tue 10 May 16
Also kind of proves that access Gondolas and chairs are equal to, if not better than expensive train sets?
Interesting that if Glencoe put in a new chair it would open up more terrain whilst ironically at Cairngorm putting in the train has had the opposite effect?



Edited 2 times. Last edit at 13.12hrs Tue 10 May 16 by paraffin.
cmorrison


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 13.33hrs on Tue 10 May 16
Amazing to see Glencoe having 3 lifts in the top 6. That can't happen very often.

Also interesting to look at Coire na Ciste:
WW Chairlift: 0 days
CnC Chairlift: 0 days
Daylodge: 21 days
WW Poma: 41 days

Got to be getting on for the fewest ever lift served days in Coire na Ciste. Terrible considering that the main runs in the ciste look to still be complete.
tele_badger


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 17.00hrs on Tue 10 May 16
>> 64. [NR] Braveheart Chairlift open for 15 days

And looks like Nevis Range are still working to make sure their back corries area remains the "most exclusive" lift served terrain in Scotland !

Lack of snow, too much snow, or lack of punters?

RogerM
Doug_Bryce


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 22.04hrs on Tue 10 May 16
PeterS Wrote:
Having demonstrated the reliability of the Poma, I wouldn't have thought it would be moving anywhere else ?


There are no plans to move it yet...

However : I would love it see it moved to link bottom of east ridge with existing plateau runs. Would open a surprisingly huge amount of expert and intermediate terrain which is very snow sure and currently not lift served.

In theory the poma is still required for back up on windy days once new chair goes in. However the rope tow and coire pollach almost cover that base ?

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muzza


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 05.39hrs on Wed 11 May 16
2 observations...

I'm sure the Cliffy would have been in the top 10 had Glencoe not had those pesky gearbox issues.

Odd that the Rob Roy T-bar was open for 4 days where the Great Glen Chair was closed!

And finally on the subject of the Braveheart, maybe if Nevis Range were a little more open about when it was going to run they'd get more punters to it.



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 16.46hrs Wed 11 May 16 by muzza.
alan


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 10.06hrs on Wed 11 May 16
muzza Wrote:
Odd that the Rob Roy T-bar was open for 4 days where the Great Glen Chair was closed!


When there is good cover on the lowest slopes it's possible to ski to the Rob Roy from the Alpha Tow and return to the Alpha from the top of Roy Roy. There will have been more days with the Rob Roy open but GG Chair not as I think there was days the GG Chair run without the Rob Roy, for return from the Braveheart.
paraffin


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 13.14hrs on Wed 11 May 16

Regarding the Glencoe Plateau Poma,

Doug_Bryce Wrote:
I would love it see it moved to link bottom of east ridge with existing plateau runs. Would open a surprisingly huge amount of expert and intermediate terrain which is very snow sure and currently not lift served.


As far as I understand, a condition of leasing the land from the Flemings for skiing was that no lift infrastructure was to be visible over their skyline. So developing further east might not be an option?

Anyway, I quite like the solitude offered by dropping over the back towards Corrie Ba.
Doug_Bryce


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 15.16hrs on Wed 11 May 16
^ The Flemings have historically always been very supportive of skiing at Glencoe. Though it has been indicated (by SNH etc) that any lift going east would come under extra scrutiny at planning stage.

As you say - nice quiet part of the hill. However a well placed short poma of 200-300m could easily open up vast amount of excellent terrain.



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growwild


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Re: 2016 Season Lift Operating Stats
Date Posted: 00.14hrs on Fri 13 May 16
Could someone not be creative in the design of lift towers, I'm sure they could be made tae look like opium poppies and some could look like totem poles. A functional art installation, helping loads get tae where they wanna get tae and helping some remember how they got there smiling smiley
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