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Covert


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 11.02hrs on Thu 20 Dec 18
BBC reporting that the report has been delayed for "about two weeks". [www.bbc.co.uk]

growwild


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 20.12hrs on Thu 20 Dec 18
They'll awready know how bad it is if the beeb are credible on this yin, just waiting on numbers and timescales probably


andrewr


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 06.48hrs on Wed 9 Jan 19
Not exactly news but its official, Cairngorm funicular to remain closed for remainder of winter season [www.pressandjournal.co.uk]

Gorminator


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 09.49hrs on Wed 9 Jan 19
Typical P & J.....Only half the story right.......but still a platform for the Invisible Man.....Lobban !!!

So are all the Numpties who appeared on here and elsewhere...saying it was going to run........going to now stay in their Burrows, or are they going to offer yet more ill-informed Crap !!!!

growwild


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 02.36hrs on Fri 11 Jan 19
Bills cloaking skills are shite, I expected more sad smiley

SnowmanDave


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 11.49hrs on Thu 17 Jan 19
Front page of todays P&J..

[www.pressandjournal.co.uk]

HSE have closed the WWP & Corie Na Ciste as they are not safe...all due to lack of maintenance by NR...


I wonder how much of the impending engineers report will be redacted as HIE try to hide the lack of upkeep by NR from the public??


HIE should be shot...BUT unfortunately they own the whole lot & they are the Gov body to get funding from to pay for it & pay for the repairs etc....so unless someone else has the £50million to buy plus the £10 million to fix & the £27million to do the future planned work then forget about doing without HIE...!!

jabuzzard


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 12.03hrs on Thu 17 Jan 19
SnowmanDave Wrote:

HIE should be shot...BUT unfortunately they own the whole lot & they are the Gov body to get funding from to pay for it & pay for the repairs etc....so unless someone else has the £50million to buy plus the £10 million to fix & the £27million to do the future planned work then forget about doing without HIE...!!



Actually the specific individuals in HIE should be fired. Well you can't directly do that but they should be put on written notice for lack of competence in their job for failing to oversee the NR franchise contract. Lack of improvement would then be grounds for sacking.

SnowmanDave


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 12.23hrs on Thu 17 Jan 19
jabuzzard Wrote:
Actually the specific individuals in HIE should be fired. Well you can't directly do that but they should be put on written notice for lack of competence in their job for failing to oversee the NR franchise contract. Lack of improvement would then be grounds for sacking.


HIE as a whole...the Scot Gov was bullied into not disbanding these corrupt enterprise companies a few years ago..

& I speak from personal experience with them as a business...I was involved with them & if you can give a fancy powerpoint presentation full of marketing BS based on thin air (little if any facts) they will throw money at you....

go in with a fact based project that is a slow but long term earner with solid foundations.....forget it...

Olderalan


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 14.20hrs on Thu 17 Jan 19
Here is what HSE had to say on one of the 'improvement notices': ''You have failed to ensure that there are appropriate arrangements in place for effective planning, organisation, control, monitoring and review of the preventative measures required to maintain the structural integrity of the tow systems installed at the Cairngorm Ski Area. As a result, the condition of work equipment, in particular the West Wall Poma Drive Station, has deteriorated to such an extent that persons using the tow may be placed at risk''


kill_reign


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 07.46hrs on Sat 26 Jan 19
Boils my pee considering what the mountain could be.

SnowmanDave


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 11.43hrs on Tue 29 Jan 19
Well that's it folks & as we all suspected...the train set ain't running this summer or for the foreseeable future...

Basically HIE have still not released the report as I recon they have run out of black marker pen to redact the worst bits..


[hie-newsroom.prgloo.com]

QUOTE:_

The Cairngorm funicular railway is to remain out of operation throughout the summer months and possibly beyond, following a detailed investigation into concerns over the structure.
The investigation, by specialist engineers COWI, was commissioned by Highlands and Islands Enterprise (HIE), which owns the facility, following safety concerns raised in a general inspection last autumn.
Engineers have concluded that the structure does not present an immediate danger to the public. However, the safety margin is lower than desirable and a series of measures should be put in place to address weaknesses before resumption of service.
COWI carried out the investigation between September and December last year, including excavating around foundations and intrusive investigations of the structure.
Work is required to strengthen the piers, beams and foundations, and install new bearings with higher load and movement capacity.
HIE is currently exploring the scope and cost of these works, and this is expected to take several weeks.
At the same time, HIE is commissioning an independent peer review of COWIís report, in line with industry best practice for complex investigations of this nature.
Work on the structure of the funicular can only be carried out during summer months when the mountain is more accessible to contractors. It will therefore remain out of service for the remainder of the current winter season and throughout the summer months and possibly longer.


I like the fact that ""HIE is commissioning an independent peer review of COWIís report, in line with industry best practice for complex investigations of this nature."""

So they want a second opinion on the report do they??...I think most users of the ski area can easily give them a report...& it'll say the same things...


DML


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 11.44hrs on Tue 29 Jan 19
Not unexpected really, but still not good news.....
Same story in the Strathy
[www.strathspey-herald.co.uk]



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11.48hrs Tue 29 Jan 19 by DML.

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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 11.52hrs on Tue 29 Jan 19
The Funicular will remain closed through the summer at least. HIE are arranging a peer review of the engineering report whic will then be used to work out solutions and costs.

Given the funicular requires a good ski season to pay for its year round operating costs it has become clear it is a millstone around the mountain operators neck rather than the line we were pedalled for years that the Funiculsr was the core business and paid for skiing being provided as a service.

Therefore it seems certain that the funicular requires ongoing subsidy over and above whatever remedial structural works are required. We believe the control systems are also obsolete and will be end of life for support next year and another £1m plus cost there reportedly.

It must not be fix the funicular at any cost. The unthinkable is not unthinkable anymore!

WeeSam


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 11.59hrs on Tue 29 Jan 19
alan Wrote:

It must not be fix the funicular at any cost. The unthinkable is not unthinkable anymore!


I agree, but I dread to think how much it will cost - and how long it will take - to decommission the damned thing and re-instate the mountainside.

ropetow


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Re: CairnGorm Funicular - Operation stopped as safety precaution
Date Posted: 12.11hrs on Tue 29 Jan 19
How about getting Glenshee or Glencoes 2nd hand chairlift installation team to give a quote?

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